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Jun 11, 2026
Jerrel Reynolds on Hutto’s Future: Growth, Public Safety & Economic Development
Jerrel Reynolds on Hutto’s Future: Growth, Public Safety & Economic Development
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[gentle music] Welcome to Wilco Texas Insider Podcast, your source for Williamson County growth, development, business, and real estate.
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From Georgetown to Round Rock, Taylor to Leander, we bring you the stories, projects, leaders, and opportunities shaping the future of one of the fastest-growing counties in Texas. I'm your host, Josh Roos.
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Let's get started. Today on the Wilco Texas Insider Podcast, we are joined by Gerald Reynolds, candidate for Hutto City Council Place One.
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As Hutto continues to experience rapid growth and development, city leadership discussions will play an important role in shaping the community's future.
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In this conversation, we will discuss the issues facing Hutto, Gerald's priorities, his vision for the city, and what residents should know as they head to the polls.
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Gerald Reynolds, welcome to the Wilco Texas Insider Podcast. Well, first off, Josh, thanks for, for having me on.
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Uh, when I saw your post, um, saying that you, you'd like to start interviewing those that are kinda movers and shakers in the industry, I, I can't necessarily say I'm a mover or shaker, but I thought, man, this is a great opportunity because to follow your podcast and, and see your channel.
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But I, I appreciate the opportunity to be on, uh, on your podcast and, and kinda share a little bit about myself, um, and then kind of keeping things growing. But so yeah, um, running for city council place one.
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W- why Hutto? Why are we here? Uh, I'll back up a little bit. Um, so we're right in the middle of COVID and this is 2020, and my wife and I were living in Round Rock at the time, uh, with our two girls, um, that we have.
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One'll be 13 this year, uh, next month, and one'll be 11 in a couple of months. So they're growing up quick, but back in, in 2020, COVID, we wanted to move to an area where it was still small.
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Um, felt like, you know, the kids could still go to school a- a- and it gave them the opportunity to kinda have that, uh, that closer feel 'cause we didn't know where, what was gonna happen during COVID.
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And so we chose Hutto because it just seemed like an area that had so much potential, um, but at the same time it was a growing city but still had that small town charm. Yeah.
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And so we chose Hutto in December 2020 to, uh, plant our roots here and, and haven't really looked back since.
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And, and I've told many people at forums before that I, um, I was a taker for almost, you know, five and a half years, just taking in all of the, the city's, uh, luxuries and, and, and growth and, and just being there.
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And now it's to the point where it's like, "Hey, I need to give back." Yeah. And I need to,
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uh, share a little bit of the responsibilities and if I have some things that I feel that may be positive in the growth of Hutto, which I do believe with my background, um, it's time for me to, to give back to the community and, and to serve the community that I live in.
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Yeah. Man, Hutto has come a long ways. Um, you know, prior to 2020, I, I definitely remember, uh, you know, driving through Hutto trying to get into Taylor and one of the biggest things was you saw a lot of corn fields.
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Always told everybody, I was like, you know, I knew when school started the, the, the corn was, was, uh, scorched.
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[laughs] And when you knew school was coming out, the, it was corn, the corn fields were about five feet tall. But now, dude, man, Hutto is consistently growing. There's a lot of things happening.
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There's rumors of things. Um, I know, you know, with a lot of, um, big, big businesses coming in, you know, one of the biggest things that a lot of people are concerned about is like the growth.
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How does that, how's that gonna impact people living in Hutto? Um, you know, there's... I, I know I presented on a lot of, uh, you know, with different companies. I know one of them was like Blue Origin coming in.
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[laughs] Uh, a lot of people were kind of upset about that too. Yeah. Is this gonna be a space community? Are there gonna be rocket ships coming everywhere?
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[laughs] Um, so you know, with your, your spin into the development side of construction, kind of what have you learned working inside of one of the fastest-growing industries in Texas?
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Well, I, I can't speak much to rocket science. I mean, I would- [laughs] But, uh, but no, I, uh, you know, of course you got Firefly. I, I've seen lots of things there. There's Firefly up in- Yeah...
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north of Cedar Park and, a- and things like that. And, and my assumption is, and you know, the viewers may know way more than me than this 'cause there's still...
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I ask a lot of questions before I make answers that I don't necessarily have full information on. I'm, I'm just not, I'm not the type to just throw out an assumption or answer.
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But what I mean by it is, is like having not known what, uh, what's truly involved with this Blue Origin deal, a- and actually I only, I, I only knew about it 'cause I was watching your- Yeah... uh, your channel. Yeah.
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[laughs] And, and I was telling you that before. Like, I was like, "Man, we're gonna get Blue Origin."
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And then I saw, uh, it's bad, but I saw a little joke on, uh, on Facebook where it was a SpaceX, um, uh, rocket going up and it was a successful landing. Yeah.
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And then it was like, uh, the Blue Origin went up and the thing just exploded. I heard that today. And they're like, "Yeah, I'd rather not have that in Hutto." Yeah. Well, I'd rather not have that in Hutto either.
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But again- Yeah... not, not assuming, but you would think that most of the time you've got Cape Canaveral, Florida, that's where the rockets go up. Yeah. You got South Texas where the rocket go up.
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I can't see them doing a rocket here. So- Yeah... it would probably be some kind of a storage facility or some kind of facility. Yeah. And if the east side of Hutto's got a lot of growth coming.
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I mean, you got Samsung plant over there in Taylor. Yeah. Uh, you got Megacys coming that's there. And so it seems like that would be maybe they need something as far as chips or something. I don't know. Yeah.
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A lot to dig in. I, I'd love to- Hopefully if I can, uh, if I can get elected by the city of Hutto, maybe in, maybe in six months time after I'm in the seat, uh, I'll be able to give you more information on that one.
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Okay. But yeah, um... One, I know one of the biggest things that I, I've heard was, like, Hutto is growing as fast as Austin. I think there's- Yeah... I wanna say there might be,
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correct me if I'm wrong, I wanna say the numbers are there's, like, 46,000 people in Hutto already. Pretty much, yeah.
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And I, I think the article I read was, like, you know, they're seeing 3,000 people come each year, and it's, like, up there with the, like, the same level as Austin. That's, that's wild.
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So I mean, people are moving to Hutto. I mean, they're, they're, they're looking at this town and they're, they're like, "This is where we need to stay. This is where we want to be at." And, um, you know, like,
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you know, 20 years or 10, 15, 20 years ago, this, this, this city was, looked like it was mostly farm town. And so we have the 79 right down smack in the middle of it. Um,
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I know as the growth comes, it's more traffic hits.
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Um, and that's kinda what I've saw a lot on some of the people commenting on things is, like, how are we going to really build out Hutto and be able to control the traffic and control the infrastructure so that, you know, people can actually live here happily [laughs], you know?
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So the exciting thing that I would say for that is seeing that businesses wanna move to Hutto, even if it's blue origin, but businesses that wanna move here say one thing, that there is potential for this growth. Yeah.
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And you can, as a city, the city should be able to control that growth. I mean, they've gotta ask permission from the city in order- Yeah... to build here. Yeah.
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So you literally have the ability to control that growth, but if you can control it in a way where the city is growing, uh, well, it won't become even more of a burden to the residents.
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What I mean by that is you said earlier, you remember driving through Hutto and you could see the corn fields o- on your way to Taylor, and I'm imagining that that drive through Hutto probably took less than five minutes.
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It did. It did. I mean, it was, uh, [laughs] when I first came here, I, I wasn't used to all the corn fields.
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I was, I was coming from big c- you know, big city Texas and Houston area and, you know, that's, that's just driving through cement pastures.
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I mean, it's like- And, and we can barely get out of this neighborhood in five minutes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so- And, and let, let it turn 4:30 on a Friday afternoon- Yeah... and watch what happen.
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You and I won't be able to cross that railroad track- No, no... much traffic. Well, that issue that we have is not one that can be taken care of overnight. Yeah. It's not. It really not.
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But you gotta think this, the planning of the initial city of Hutto was probably planned 20 years ago, right? Yeah. And, and they never really would've thought that we'd had 46,000 something people- Yeah...
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that's here and at, at that growth. And so to hear you say that there's 3,000 people that's moving, having a background in residential construction, uh, a- and land development is what we're getting.
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Um, over the last decade, uh, very close to 11 years, but over the last decade, I've, I've seen firsthand, I remember sitting in Round Rock, Mayfield Ranch, it's off of 1431, right between Cedar Park and Round Rock- Yeah...
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so kind of real close to IKEA over there. And, uh, someone came into my model home and they were like, "Man, I barely found you guys. I'm out in the middle of nowhere." There were cows behind the model home.
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And you know, it's 2015 and people were like, "Man, this is, uh, this is out in the middle of a field." If I say Mayfield Ranch to your listeners are there, they're like, "What is he talking about?
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Mayfield Ranch is dead center in the middle of Round Rock." Like- Yeah... it, you've already got QT, you've got businesses that are up there. Oh, man. They're popping up left and right.
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You, you had what used to be Arterial H, I'm talking way back. It's East View Hope. Yeah. And so now you, you have communities that have just exploded at such a rapid pace.
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Well, 10 years later, 11 years later, we're in Hutto, that growth where there's 3,000 people moving, how's the city prepared for it?
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Now, I'm not saying the city's doing anything wrong by no means, but I'm just saying it may help to have someone who has a background in it.
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That's kind of the basis of what I'm trying to run on as I've been a taker for, for five years. I have a background in it.
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I can potentially bring in some help to help plan better so that in 10 years from now when you and I are sitting there, maybe it still takes 30 minutes to get through Hutto to go to Taylor, but maybe 10 years from now it's not, "Hey, it takes me an hour to get through- Yeah...
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Hutto to get to Taylor." And if, and if we don't plan for that now, I think that's the direction that it's headed. Yeah.
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And, and you may end up, the worst thing that could happen to a place like Hutto is maybe you hit 50,000 and there's enough people that says, "Nah, this ain't for me," and then you create a mass exodus.
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Can you imagine what that does to a city? Oh, to a city? It pretty much destroys it. That's crazy.
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I mean, like, I think the two main corridors right now is 79, and I'm gonna say this, I'm sure everybody else knows this, and this is kinda my secret that gets me outta Hutto faster, is taking Chandler University Road to [laughs] Round Rock.
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And so those are, like, the two main, main areas and, like, I know going down Chandler and, and/University, it's starting to get where it's, it's busier and busier as well. So- Make it wider there. Yeah. Yeah.
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Focus some efforts there. You've got a north entrance or north entrance and exit to the city there to get you over to, to Taylor. 79's still there. It's gonna be there, right? Yeah.
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You, you got the toll 130 that's running. There's Wilco Highway's coming, so they're working on trying to get it around, but the infrastructure itself to try to keep up with the growth, 3,000 people they- Yeah.
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I mean, it's, it, it's, like, I, I saw that article and I was like- It's a lot... "Wow." I mean, I, I, I almost think is it because- You know, Austin has just been so built out.
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I mean, and it's crazy 'cause where I'm looking at, and I could be wrong, but some of the big, and, and I know you said you're on this side too of over there in, with your company, Liberty Hill, but it's like, man, the two biggest, uh, cities that are really doing a lot that I see moving dirt, man, is, i- it's Hutto and, and, and that Liberty Hill out there.
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I mean, those, those areas are getting a lot of things done.
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Um, and it's interesting to know, and I think one of the biggest things with Round Rock right now is just, it's, I think a lot of it's already built out, so there's not enough land there, or they just, you know...
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And I know there's some land that's still available, but people own it, so- Only way you can build there is to go up. Exactly. There's no way to go out. Exactly.
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So I think, you know, and, and that's one of the biggest things that I'm seeing is like, man, Hutto, you, you, you still have a whole lot of land that could be built out here.
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Um, Taylor has a lot of stuff out there as well that can be built.
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And, you know, we hear all the stuff coming here, and that is, that's, that's some of the biggest things that I constantly see from, you know, the people that watch Wilco Texas Insider is they're worried about the water, they're worried about the energy, they're worried about the safety, they're worried about just the infrastructure and how a city is going to be able to control all this.
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And, you know, that's kinda one of the biggest things from what I'm hearing from you that you're trying to run on is so that you can really go in there and, you know, educate the people and, and really teach people how this is going to happen, um, without making everybody worried.
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Because, you know, and, and I've tried to educate people on some of the, like the data centers, uh, the A- the AI data centers coming in.
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You know, "Oh, it's gonna suck a lot of energy up," or, "It's gonna suck a lot of water up." Um, and you know, a lot of the times it's like,
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I think where people m- get the mistrust is it's coming from these big CEOs that they've never been here. They don't know Hutto, they don't know Taylor, they don't know this Williamson County.
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And so it's like they're coming here and they got all this money, they're billionaires, and it's like, well, y'all are gonna sit here and tell us how y'all are gonna plan this out. But
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it's like the fact that it's almost like we don't have people that are living here explain that. I could be wrong, but- Well-... that's kinda what I'm seeing. Want to stay ahead of what's happening in Williamson County?
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So thinking like, let's just take a little bit at a time, so the data centers, right? I'm not an electrical engineer, so- Yeah... relative what is a lot, right? Yeah.
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Um, I know what my house runs on, obviously- Exactly... a data center's gonna take more than that. Yeah.
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But like i- if you were to tell me, "Hey, like the data center's gonna, it takes more energy than this 600 person neighborhood- Yeah...
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or this 600 house neighborhood," I'm like, "Geez, so you're telling me that thing requires as much energy as an entire neighborhood?" Yeah.
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Hey, that might be something that is worth talking about, and that needs to get out, and we need to have some studies that's on that. It's like, all right, well, water too, right?
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Water's a big situation that I'm trying to run on, right? Like we know that eventually, um, you're gonna be in a spot where no one wants to be like, uh, Pflugerville, right? Yeah.
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And I'm not saying anything bad on Pflugerville. Yeah. Don't get me wrong there.
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But they were in a situation where they had that water line break, and you just saw stage four water restrictions immediately, and they were in a bind. Yeah. I mean, a bad bind.
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So it's like, hey, let's learn from that and figure out how to move forward. But, but if a data center's gonna come in and take that kind of water, well, then that's a no-brainer.
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It's like, well, again, right, smart business decisions, smart moves. Okay, well, if this data center's gonna come, like certainly I, I... And I'm making this as a public knowledge so that people, my viewers can hear.
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It's like, no, I don't think the data center needs to be dead center in the middle of Hutto. Yeah. I mean, we already got two monstrosity buildings over here that's like, uh, commercial space or whatever.
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I, I didn't approve it. I didn't put it on. [laughs] I didn't vote for it, but it's there, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, hey, I wasn't on the council then.
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[laughs] But at the same time, like you don't want that dead center in the middle of Hutto. They say the thing sounds like a washing machine. I hate the way mine sounds. Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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But if they say, "All right, well, throw this thing out in the cornfield if there's a farmer that's wanting to give it up," and then you say, "All right, well, before we do that, let's swing for the fence on it.
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Hey, City of Hutto needs some access to water, so you guys need to build this infrastructure. You need to put this stuff in."
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And if they're pitching and you can hold them to it, then and only then release that to the public for public comment and say, "Hey, look.
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Now, guys, instead of having to create this large, you know, uh, community protest if we're not gonna do it, it's, we've done some research. We have some knowledge. This is where it's gonna be located.
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Maybe it's way out of residential stuff, and the benefits that come to the city are X. What does the public think of it?" Maybe the public then will say, "Huh, okay, maybe."
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Or they come back in and say, "Nah, we still don't want it." Then they go to the next city and it comes. Well, so for me to say whether I'm for a data center, I'm gonna tell you one thing right now.
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I was not for the location of that data center. Yeah. Um, but then the same thing could go for many other issues that I know we'll get into here shortly. But
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yeah, as far as like seeing infrastructure and growth, yes, having a background in residential construction and development, and for the record, you know, my company currently does not build in Hutto.
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We don't build anything east of 35. Yeah. We, uh, we build in Bastrop, we build in, uh, in Dripping Springs. But the majority of our work is, uh, northwest Georgetown area, so Liberty Hill, Georgetown and whatnot.
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But- And, and that's our plans. It's really our market- Yeah... uh, that's there.
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But yeah, have to be able to make better business decisions and bring in better commercial businesses to help alleviate, um, some of those taxes and burdens from the residents of Hutto if you wanna keep it affordable.
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Yeah.
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And, and I mean, and I, you know, I know we talked a little bit about affordable housing, and it seems like that's kind of some of the things that you have to be able to do within the city is to, to build that out and bring the businesses in.
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Otherwise, m- and with interest rates going through the roof, I mean, I know everything kinda...
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They were sevens and now we're in the, like, mid-sixes, but it's, it's like a- at the end of the day, you know, ultimately we can't control the interest rate. Like, [laughs] here, that, that's a...
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I feel like that's, that's a government far away thing, like here on, you know, Fox or CNN or whatever, and it's like, man, I, I have no control over that, man. And- No... but that has a huge impact on
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the buying power of a lot of people that are coming into the communities.
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And people moving, you know, not everybody wants to live in Austin, not everybody, you know, wants to live in these big areas, and they're coming out because of the affordability.
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Um, you know, you get a bigger house, you get, you know, a better place to... Better neighborhood. Um, so you know, that's, that's huge looking at that with the businesses.
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And you know, one of the things that I did see, man, I was... We were, we had a... Man, I forget.
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I was in a meeting, it was a Kiwanis Club meeting, and somebody brought up they were, they were interviewing the, the m- well, he wasn't the mayor at the time, but the mayor, um, now currently of Taylor.
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[laughs] And they were talking, they were talking about, you know, what has Samsung done for the people, you know? And, and one of the things that I looked at was, like, okay, you know, Samsung's being built out.
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Um, I know, and, and I could be dead wrong, but from my understanding, you know, they are bringing in money for the schools and, and things from that end, end point. That's for sure.
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And I, I'm sure it's helping the taxes out and, uh, but I could be wrong. You know, I'm not, I'm, I'm not the city leader. I don't know all the- Hey, we're rookies right now. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[laughs] So I- Untethered... I, I could be, you know, just speaking out the side of my mouth. But you know, one of the things that I... Like, when he was asking this question, I was like, "Man, dude,
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you may not see the impact of it right now, but what, what the impact that I see, especially being in the schools," um, you know, one of the biggest impacts is, is you're bringing big businesses into the community.
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And what that does for the future generations, especially you have the, if you have kids, you know, these are, these are communities arou- or these are businesses around here that it's a direct from the school into the, the, the big businesses.
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These are, these are good paying jobs that people are going to school for. Yeah.
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I mean, you know, I, I heard, and I know, and I, I could, could be wrong but I, I, I think this is right, is that, uh, from my understanding, they're building a UT campus out there in Taylor.
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So it's like, man, you start building these big, big com- or these big companies start coming in, well, guess what? The schools are gonna come in. Good jobs- Yeah, yeah... good pay. Good pay- Yeah... brings good people.
22:06
Yep. Good people continue to grow. Yes. It's, it's, it's actual good growth. Yeah. Here's one thing I would say, like, you know, contrary to, to many's belief, right?
22:14
So you, you take a city like Austin, a- and we know, man, Austin I-35, we ain't got that road in 60 years, right? Yes. Like, it's been the same. Yeah, yeah. I said I'm, I'm 41 years old. Yeah. You know, anyway, whatever.
22:26
Been, been driving for a little while and it just seems like, man, they've been working on that road forever. I, I, I don't wish to be on that council at all. [laughs] Like, kudos to them. No.
22:35
But what I can say is you take Hutto, and you know what you want the plan to be, but if I told you, I said, "Hey, Josh, man, let's, let's go hike.
22:45
L- you know, let's take some dogs out," we're probably gonna end up in the green belt in Austin. Yeah. Yeah. Right? So you go off Pennybacker Bridge and so we do. Yeah. And we're gonna hike a little.
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But, or we'll go around Town Lake, and what you see is they manage to keep things like the parks and the wildlife and the, and the recreation- Yeah...
23:04
all good inside the city in this massive metropolis, and then you've got this really, really nice walking trail in the park and people are running and it's cool.
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And you've got some greenery that just takes a little bit of the burden off of the, the, the concrete that you see everywhere. Yeah. So you, I gotta think about, like, well, so Hutto, that needs to be too, right?
23:25
So you need to make sure, like, Fritz Park is there, right? Yeah. You gotta have good park system. You need to make sure you have some greens.
23:31
Like, good bringing businesses in, bringing residents, putting homes in there, that's one thing. But in order for them to have a place to go and relax and be comfortable.
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'Cause like in this neighborhood that I'm in, right, there's, you, you got an amenity center and you got a pool and there's- Yeah...
23:47
a little bit of parks, but for the most part, if my kids wanna go play pickleball, we go play pickleball up here where, where the city's just got some new pickleball courts, or take them to Fritz Park and so they can, can actually enjoy some green space.
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Those type things need to be planned as well instead of just saying... A- and we talked before, you, you can have a city that's only all businesses and now you got commercial, and where do people live? Yeah.
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And then you got a place where, uh, it's a city with only residential and no commercial, and now it's like, well, where do people work? They gotta travel too, right? Yeah.
24:20
So you gotta work that blend of, of bringing both. But by bringing those both residential and commercial, and that thought is, well, it's gonna drive traffic. What's gonna be more beneficial? The data center?
24:34
All right, well, if the data center came, what does that bring? I don't know, maybe 10, 12 jobs, 20 jobs. I mean, I thought the whole purpose of a data center was to make computers run better anyway, right?
24:43
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So probably gonna have less people, but you got a Toyota dealership up there, it's probably gonna have, what, 50, 7,500 people working on it. Yeah.
24:51
They, people are like, "Why are they bringing a car dealership?" How many jobs did that create? Yeah. That's probably a good decision.
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And people now, that's probably good paying jobs that people could live here and work at the dealership, right? You got Hookie that's there. Oh, yeah. People live here, work there, play there, right? So
25:12
I'm not saying that anything was done wrong at Hutto. I'm just saying that it continues to grow. It needs to continue to change with that growth. Yeah. Now, I'm not saying that we haven't done anything wrong.
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Like I said, I talked about the two big monstrosity buildings over here. Yeah, yeah. [laughs] Yeah. I'm, I'm gonna get bite in those buildings, man. Yeah, yeah. But, um, yeah.
25:33
Uh, there's a, there's some, there's some big stuff, I'm, I'm hoping we get to it later, but, like, fire stations and all that- Yeah... that kind of big stuff that's been talking about. Yeah, yeah.
25:41
I'll, I'll give you my opinion on that. Well, well, I, I mean, since you're, we're, we're here- [laughs]... and I know we talked on this- Yeah... earlier, was, you know,
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uh, you know, this is one thing that I listen to, uh, you know, Williamson County Chief Matthew Lindemann.
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He, he talked on this was, was the biggest thing is as Williamson County grows, we have to look at the safety within the county, you know?
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'Cause I, I got some, I got some buddies that are, that are, you know, in, they're police officers or they're sheriffs, and a lot of the times it's like, man, you know, the crimes not necessarily start in the city.
26:19
Some of that crime starts way out. You know? You're- Yeah... you're talking some of that crime is put past the border, it coming in.
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Um, you know, so as the city continues to increase with the population, y- you know, safety becomes a huge priority at that point, you know? And, you know, what's your thoughts on, on that? Yeah.
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Man, I, I, I got something that I hope blows your mind because when I think about it and I tell people this, it blows my mind each time, I think. So, like,
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how to tell if a city has good public safety is the ability to be able to watch our kids out there- Yeah... and be naive and be kids. Yeah.
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'Cause they don't really know that there's any kind of danger or anything that's going on. That's not what they're thinking about right now. Yeah. That, to me, shows that the city itself is a safe city.
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Like, I wanna be able to sleep at night knowing that my house isn't getting broke into. Exactly. I wanna be able to let my car park outside.
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My wife is notorious for coming back from HEB, leaving the hatch open and the doors unlocked. [laughs] And I wake up the next morning and the car is wide open. [laughs] And I think, "Uh, did it get broke into?"
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And then I realize, I'm like, "Man, I'm in Hutto." Dude. "It's not broke into." [laughs] My wife's the same way, man.
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I, I grew up [laughs] in a different side of Houston and we locked our doors and we locked everything and, and, uh, my wife will leave her, her car wide open.
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I'm like, "Babe, like, you ain't worried anybody's gonna, like, come on in there?" Yeah. It's just, uh- So the fact is, it's like, Hutto, and, and, and I love the, the police chief here. Yo, bro, he's, he's cool.
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He's got a music video out. Yeah. He's, he's really cool. I like him. Just one of the most genuine people.
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Um, and I've always shared this with everyone, and I'm glad I get the opportunity to share it in, in front of your viewers, is like, there's a couple of people that I don't ever wanna mess with.
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And I told this to someone this morning. I was like, "Look, I'm not gonna mess with firefighters and EMS, first responders, and I'm not gonna mess with the police officers." Yeah.
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Here's the only thing I say, and, and, and I'll explain why. Give them money, give them the tools, right?
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And let them do their job, because these are the ones that are running towards the gunshots when I'm running away from them. Yeah.
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These are the guys run- and women going into the buildings that are burning when I'm running out of it. Yeah. So when I say give them money, I'm not saying give them any kind of weird money. I'm saying pay them well.
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Yeah. Yeah. Because they're willing to do a crazy, crazy job- Oh, yeah... that I don't wanna do. Yeah. Give them the tools, meaning give them the opportunity to have good things so that it protects their lives too. Yeah.
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They need good equipment. And, and I'll, I'll talk both on police and fire and I'll keep it short for you. But the police station, I did a, I did a tour here at the police station. They gave us the opportunity.
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As council members, they wanted us to have, like, a full city walk through.
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And so they walked me through the precinct up there and, and they showed us the evidence room, and it was literally stacked to the top and they're having to get Connex boxes that are out.
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And, and then I see the police officers are in these little tiny cubicles, and they're literally sitting on tapi chairs. Hutto's growing, so public safety has to grow too. Yeah.
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But the building up there is not enough or equipped to, to handle any more people without them literally sitting in, you know, super small cubicles. And so we need to get that, that police station that's built, right?
29:32
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So I, I believe a, a great city needs to have a, a great public safety, um, system set up, and it needs support from the residents to create good public safety.
30:33
The other one there, right, so there's a major discussion that's happening right now. It's huge. Just came out, uh, about, um, so you got Emergency Services District number 3, right? So ESD 3.
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That's been, uh, uh, over 20 years has been providing public safety for on the firefighter side for Hutto.
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And so Hutto's in a spot where just the other night they said, uh, you know, they, they wanna move forward with some land and build their own, uh, city fire station. Mm-hmm.
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Everyone's been asking me what my opinion is on the matter, right?
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And because you've got the council members and you got the mayor and, and everyone's putting forward saying, "You know, we're gonna move forward with this. We're gonna buy our own land.
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We're gonna build our own fire station." And they're like, "Gerald, do you support that?" And I'm like, "Man, I'm gonna be real honest with you. Based on the knowledge that I have in the short amount of time,
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why fix something," and I said this at the forum, "Why fix something that's not broken?" Yeah. If ESD 3's doing a great job and has been doing a great job, let them continue to do the great job.
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I mean, if we're at a spot where Hutto's growing so fast ESD can't keep up with it, then perhaps maybe there's a conversation where ESD and Hutto works together and says, "All right. Well, you guys need to take it on."
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But I don't think that's the situation. These guys are, are doing... We've got fire stations that are getting put up everywhere that...
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I said it at the, at the forum, if I dial 911, I 100% trust they're coming every time I call. Yeah. And that's the way I want it to be for my kids too. So
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me, someone asked, "Well, would you have voted yes or would you have voted no to move forward with it?" I would've been a no vote, man. I'm telling you that straight up right now.
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This isn't any kind of, uh, political game or scheme. That's me telling you the knowledge that I have, I would've voted no. Now, here's why I would've voted no.
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I'd have voted no because I didn't, I don't understand the timing. Yeah. I don't understand why it needs to move so fast, and I don't have any more detail other than, "Hey, this is what we wanna do.
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This is, uh, this is where it's gonna be and how fast we're gonna get there."
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'Cause I'm sitting there thinking, "Well, I just told you about the police station, and they're literally in cubicles, and we haven't started building a new police station." And
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it's like, all right, well, I know roads are terrible. Takes you forever to get to Taylor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the timing of let's go ahead and add something on like a fire station when there's already there.
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Like, let's, let's get some roads. Let's get us- Yeah... to where we can move. Let, let's get us some water and some infrastructure. Let's get that police station built. Yeah. Let's keep those police happy because
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if, if I were a police officer and I was looking at Hutto and I wanted to move out here, maybe move my family, and I wanted... And I toured that police precinct,
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I'd be giving myself some serious considerations on like, all right, well, they said that there's a station coming, and I'm probably gonna move to Hutto anyway because I believe that it's happening. So we said we would.
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Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get that station built so that we can continue to bring good people- Yeah... to Hutto, uh, police officers, firefighters. And, and, and that's my take on it, man. I, like,
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m- one of the top three priorities for me is gonna be public safety for sure. Yeah. I, I mean, I think if you do hear, you know, different people talking about, you know, well... And, and I've heard it.
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I've heard the comments, especially with the fire, the new fire houses or the fire departments being built.
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Uh, did a story on that a couple months back, and people were like, "Why we building all these new fire departments? All that is is just a, a, a bulk for these people," you know? And it's...
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And, and one of the things that I always say is, man, unless you experienced an emergency on your, uh, uh, personally an emergency, it's hard to say we don't need more people that are gonna help out within public safety.
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Yeah. I mean, you know, man, a few months ago, I was dealing with this, this heart issue, um, atrial fibrillation, and it was, uh...
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Had it for the past seven years and just got worse and worse and worse, uh, in, in the fall and ended up having to go get an operation done. Mm.
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And like every time, man, I'd sit on that couch, I thought I was gonna have a heart attack, man. I, I... There was one time I was out at, um, out at a Bass Pro Shop, man. C- We were looking at the fish in there.
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I told my wife, I said, "Man, you need to call, call emergency, man. Like, I, I, I don't know if I'm having a heart attack here. I don't know what's going on."
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And man, I'm telling you, within, I feel like it was within, you know, minutes, dude, they were there. And they got me, and they, they took me in and all that.
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And I remember trying to drive in 'cause with atrial fibrillation, there was many, many different attacks that would happen. And I remember one time sitting at a light.
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I told my wife, I said, "This is the, this is the light that if I have a heart attack, this is it." Mm. 'Cause I mean, dude, just trying to make the, like, sit there and thinking you're in an emergency crisis situation,
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that light is on red, and you wish it was green. Mm. It's just, it's, it's seconds, man.
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And when, until you experience that firsthand, it's like, man, I, I'm a firm believer, man, if we need, if we need the safety, the infrastructure of the police departments, the fire departments that are gonna help protect the city, man, it is crucial, especially when the people that are needing these, these, these fire departments and police officers at that time to get there as fast as they can because of an emergency.
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Take my money. Yeah, yeah. Like, that's, that's kind of where I'm at, man.
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As a, uh, as I was younger, me and my wife, and a lot of people, this will give you a little background history on me too, like, so my wife and I have been together for 26 years.
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I'm 41 years old, and so we, we met when we were 15 years old and, uh, sophomores in high school. Been together ever since. Yeah.
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And, um, I can remember struggling, uh, you know, 19, 20 years old, 21 years old, so, like, you're still, you're an adult, but you're still a kid, man.
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Like, and, and I don't mean to offend any of the fan, uh, any of the viewers, but, like, I look at it in my own personal self. I was 19, 20. I'm out on my own. I'm making decisions. I'm just trying to be an adult.
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But man, I was a kid because I- Yeah... I'd never experienced anything in my life, right? And so my wife has epilepsy. Thank God, um, that, uh, it's controlled and has been for a long time. A huge blessing, but
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she used to have, uh, she has the seizures all the time And one time she, uh, she had seizures, fell down, she busted her lip and chipped a tooth, tooth went through her lip and stuff.
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And I thought it broke her nose, it was just, you know. Yeah. And the, for the brief second, it was like, "I should call 911." And I remember saying, "But it's gonna cost so much money. I don't have it." Yeah.
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"And so let me just see if I can, you know, provide as much care for her as I can, get her in the car and I'll carry her to the hospital."
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And then I'm sitting there thinking like, "You know, I'm still gonna go to the emergency room, and that's-" Yeah... "still gonna cost more money than what I got." So it's like, "What do I do? What do I do?"
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And you know, you, you hit the brief moment and she's, she's there. She's like, "I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine." You know? And she, we've lived with it for so long.
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And I had to think back now, I'm like, the cost of that and where I was and having to make those decisions, now older, l- you know, I'm not gonna... I almost said older like you, Josh, but I didn't wanna say that.
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[laughs] I, I only know Louis is saying that. [laughs] But I, uh, I wanna say as I'm older, I don't care what it costs, man. Yeah. I'm calling 911. Yeah.
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And I'm gonna deal with it when I have to deal with it, and that means I have to pay on it for a little while- Yeah... to pay that bill, then so be it. But I have so much faith that they're gonna come. Yeah. Yeah.
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And that's what it means to me. So when I hear public comment the other night from, you know, the firefighters that were, were against it, um, I kinda understand.
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Like, maybe they need to, uh, maybe there needs to be more information that's out before we move forward on anything like that. But- Yeah...
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don't mess with the firefighters, don't mess with EMS, don't mess with the police officers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why our kids are able to play and not have to worry about- Oh, I, I agree 100%... Green River so.
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I mean, it's just one of those things that, man, until you experience an emergency crisis, it, it's a whole different understanding. I mean, it's easy to say, "Oh man, we got too many of 'em," or, "We...
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You know, that's costing money." But at the end of the day, dude, when you experience the emergency and the crisis at that moment, man, even a second or two, it seems like it's too long. Yep.
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I mean, it's like, uh, uh, you know, if- I'm not grabbing my water hose trying to put my house out. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try- Exactly... wait for them to get there. Exactly.
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But they got the tools and they got the knowledge. Yeah. I don't have a clue what I'm doing. Yeah. I'm trying to get my family to safety. Yeah. Yeah.
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So I mean, that's, that's kinda w- with, with big, big growth, um, you know, I know there's been a lot of talk on the big growth coming in.
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Um, you know, I, I know we're seeing some dirt moved and, and we're seeing things happening.
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Um, and I, like I'm seeing the articles and reading things that are coming through a lot more quicker than the, the, the, the growth and development, but, you know, it takes time to, to build those things out.
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Um, so it's just things that people are aware of, they're seeing, and I think a lot of it's just, you know, especially with, with where you're running on city council is like, I think a, a lot of your work ahead if you win that spot will be helping develop the, the city out on...
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On, I mean, you're, you, you're on the... If, if a lot of this stuff's coming in, I mean, this is, this is history changing moments for, for Hutto.
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I mean, you're talking, you're, you're talking this was, this was never happening on the forefront. This is new, new things [laughs] happening, you know? Um, and it, it's kind of exciting to kinda see.
40:37
You, you gotta think, like as far as, as Hutto, like we talked about 20 something years ago and then where it is today, we need to be... We talked about Whac-A-Mole before this. Yeah.
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So it's like I, I always get this picture in my mind when it's like, all right, well, 3,000 people moved here, gotta fix that street. Well- Yeah...
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by the time we get this street done, there's 3000 people more moved here. Yeah, yeah. Oh no, I gotta run over- Yeah... and fix this street and do that. So it's kinda like one of those like, let's, let's step back. Yeah.
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We know this projection where we're headed, what could we fix to prepare us for what could be 10 years down the road- Yeah... now? Yeah.
41:16
So maybe when, you know, the UDC's wr- written or rewritten or reviewed or whatever, you could say something like, "All right, well instead of, you know, preparing this for a, you know, 50-foot right of way, maybe it's this 150-foot right of way or 100-foot right of way."
41:32
Yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm just saying there's studies that go back on there, but city council has the ability to, um, be a, to help navigate that- Yeah...
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and to vote on that, and to when people come in and say, "Hey, we wanna build a city," or, "I wanna build a, a, a company in your city, and this is what I'd like to do."
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You can say, "All right, well based on the way we were planning and where it's gonna be, I don't want you to put this big building-" Yeah... monstrosity right now." I tell you like- Yeah. Yeah, yeah...
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we, we don't want you to put this thing two feet from the, the 79. It needs to be back 150 feet from 79 because I may have to widen that thing on that side- Yeah...
42:14
you know, going forward or, or, you know, that could be innovation up there. Yeah. That could be, you know, Limmer Loop or, uh, any road in Hutto, right? So it's like, all right, well plan for then, not for now. Yeah.
42:28
Only fixing a problem right now, by the time it's done, you've already outgrown the problem. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
42:34
That's, uh, the backing that I feel that I can bring, and I'm not saying that, you know, I'm, I've got the answer to it all.
42:41
I'm not, because, you know, there, there's seven votes that's up there on the council, but just because those seven votes are up there, those seven don't know it all too. Yeah. Um,
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but those seven have the ability to reach out to experts and to bring in studies and, and talk with people and experts and, uh, research a little bit before making a decision.
43:03
And then take public comment, listen to the resident. Like- Yeah... the seven that's on that dais are the mouthpiece- For 46,000 something people. Yeah. Yeah.
43:13
So if you're not listening to those 46,000 people and, you know, supporting them and their decisions, sometimes you gotta let yourself get out of the way.
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Like, I'm one vote, but I'm one opinion, but I'm representing 46,000 of them too, so I should be listening to that, right? Yeah. So just because I may be against something the majority of people are for,
43:35
that's probably better than just my one opinion. Yeah. Yeah. And so sometimes you gotta do the tough job and, you know, you have to go against, uh, even what if you would've voted, you would've voted. So like
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someone asked me about the fire station, that's why I said what I said. Yeah. I, I see there are enough people.
43:52
Man, I got text after text after text from folks who are, you know, some of them are already supporters say, "Hey, you got my vote, but I just wanna know what your thoughts are on it." Yeah.
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I'm like, "Well, I don't wanna lose your vote 'cause I tell it, but at the same time, if I do lose your vote because of what I say, at least you heard my opinion and you asked it."
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So, um, yeah, man, Hutto's got a lot of work done. I'm, I'm ready. I'm excited. I hope that, uh, I hope that I can bring, um, that knowledge and, and, and win this runoff.
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But at the same time, you know, my opponent that I'm running against, I have a lot of respect for. Yeah. I, I really do. Um, so I, I shared this with people that I believe, I hope Hutto chooses the right person.
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Uh, and then once Hutto does choose that person, whoever it may be, uh, myself and my opponent, I think, and I hope and I will too, get behind that person that was elected and support him. Yeah. Yeah.
44:45
Like, man, there's so many... Who wants the pilot to crash the plane, right? [laughs] Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. It's like- Exactly... we see that in our own politics right now, right? [laughs] Exactly. Exactly.
44:57
You know, I, I, I think, uh, I think the schools are prepared. I, I do see growth happening with the schools. I know they're getting a second, uh, high school- Yep... building onto that.
45:07
That's gonna be interesting for the schools. Um, you know, still, still Hutto Hippos all the way. Still you gotta be. You know? Like- I mean, when you're the only city in the country that- That has a hippo...
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has a hippo mascot- Yeah. Yeah... you, you gotta kinda keep it, right? Yeah. Yeah. You don't wanna be, "Hey, man, that's the other school in town." [laughs] Yeah, exactly.
45:24
What if they're, you know, the Dolphins or something like that? Yeah. You know, like- Yeah, yeah, yeah... it doesn't make sense. Yeah. Gotta be a hippo. Yeah. Gotta be a hippo.
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I, I, I, I'll have to, uh, I usually do way back World Codes, talk about the history. I, I, I wanna do one on the hippo. Um, I'll, I'll research a little bit more. But I think it's, uh, the hippo got...
45:42
There was a carnival that, from my understanding, there was a carnival that came through and the hippo- I, I've heard the story, yeah... got, got lost or something.
45:49
It, it's funny, if I tell you the story and you ask somebody else, they'll probably tell you a different story- Tell you-... but it's the same thing... it's like the fishing story. "Man, I caught a fish this big."
45:55
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a- And it was-... each time- [laughs] Yeah. There was a circus train- Yeah... coming through Hutto- Yeah... and got stuck. Yeah. And the hippo escaped- Yeah... and ended up in Cottonwood Creek.
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Yeah. Yeah. And they could never get it out of Cottonwood Creek. [laughs] Yeah. Yeah. And it's like- So- Yeah.
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But, you know, and then I heard that they called in the Texas Rangers and they lassoed him and pulled him back. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was that much fun. But it didn't say that.
46:17
I just made that part up. Yeah. [laughs] Well, that one's coming. That, that one's coming. So man, it's been great talking to you, man.
46:23
It sounds like, uh, you got a lot of good, great ideas of, um, what you kinda wanna do when it comes to helping develop the city out. I know the city has a lot of things happening coming in for the future.
46:37
Um, I think ultimately, I wanna say there was something passed where it was like 10-day business permit, if you're gonna bring jobs into Hutto, that they're gonna hurry up and pass out permits to get things started.
46:50
Um, I, I, I think Hutto, man, I, I think ultimately they wanna bring the companies in.
46:55
They want growth here and, um, but I think, you know, at the end of the day, it's got to be built out correctly and, you know, um, really researched through and
47:07
educate the, the people of Hutto on how that's gonna be done. There are probably a lot more takers. I said that was me. Right? Yeah. After five years you said I was a taker and, you know, receiver, whatever.
47:17
There are probably a lot more out there. Um, a- and that's cool. Y- your a taxpayer, that's what you're doing. That's what you're here for. Nobody says you gotta get out and, and, and serve and work.
47:29
Um, but there are a few and, and, and I felt like, hey, it's, it's my time to, uh, to step up and serve and that's the reason why is I, I want to continue to keep my roots. I want my kids to grow here.
47:43
You know, I wanna, uh, live in my house and I want this home to be, uh, to gain in equity and be- Yeah... worth more.
47:50
That's 'cause Hutto grows and therefore my house is worth more and, you know, I feel like I've made a, uh, a good business financial decision, but our family's made a good decision because, you know, this is a livelihood that we've got.
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So I wanna continue to see Hutto thrive. But there... It's hard, man.
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I gotta be honest, like any kind of politics, as much as you say, "Hey, I'm not a politician, I'm a statesman," and I've said that too, and, and I, I'm really truly trying to be that. But
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the, uh, the haters on the internet- Oh, man... make it so hard for somebody to even- Yeah... wanna jump out there and do it- Yeah...
48:24
for fear of, man, I'm never gonna be able to make that person happy, so I'm just not even gonna do it. So my encouragement to others that you would, uh, would have the opportunity to, um, interview- Yeah, man...
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on your podcast is I hope that there are many people that say, "You know what? I'm never gonna make everyone happy- Yeah... but I'm gonna step forward no matter what." And, uh, just don't read the comments. Yeah.
48:50
That's it. Just don't read the comments. That's it. That's it. Get out there and help do it. I, I... Man, I, I wish you the best. I hope- I appreciate being on your show.
48:58
I, uh, I hope that it continues to flourish and thrive. And, um, like I said, maybe in six months time we can sit down and- Oh, man, I'd love to have you back- I can tell you...
49:07
especially, especially, uh, in that industry, um, when it comes to the city council. But if not, man, I, I'd probably have you back on...
49:15
I, I definitely would like to interview you more on your, you know, your career and your development- Yeah... with the, the new, new home builds 'cause I know that's a whole nother, um- [laughs]...
49:24
area of talking points that we can go into, uh, 'cause that's a different development s- uh, side of the game.
49:31
And, um, you know, I know with big, big companies coming in, you gotta have the, the homes that are, are, you know, going up. Well, that can put strain on residents too. Yeah. That can put a strain on cities too. Yeah.
49:44
That infrastructure right there that just because you got more houses means that there's more, um, utilities. Yeah. There's more water that's taken, right? Yeah. So does more mean better? Yeah.
49:55
I mean, yeah, it's my industry and it's what I do for a living, but I'm sitting here telling you right now, like, there needs to be some thought behind that too. Yeah.
50:04
Like, if the city doesn't have the amount of resources to put it in there, perhaps maybe you slow that too. Yeah. Yeah. Right? And, and plan better for the future. Yeah.
50:14
And planning better by the future, maybe then you can continue to excel. Um, Austin's gonna continue to grow. Yeah. The suburbs around Austin are gonna continue to grow.
50:24
Uh, it won't be long before Austin and Houston are connected, much like right now. You can barely tell where Austin ends and San Antonio begins.
50:31
Um, you'll see that, you know, same thing running up through Salado to- Yeah... to, into Waco and Temple and all that area, and then probably further even east out. Yeah.
50:41
You know, Thorndale, Thrall, Rockdale, all that, it won't be long before it's College Station. Yeah. So it's gonna continue to grow. Yeah. We just need to be prepared for it.
50:50
Well, I know whether you like him or not, I'm not trying to be a supporter, whatever, but I'm just saying from my understanding what I heard Governor Abbott say, "Man, Texas is open for business."
51:03
And um, you know, you're gonna start seeing a lot of that come into Texas with, um, you know, I, I, I'm seeing it. [laughs] What'd he say? Yeah. He said, "My, my name's Greg, so I'm literally chill."
51:14
[laughs] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So- It's funny. It's funny...
51:17
so I mean, that, that's coming and, and you definitely, I know I, I, I'm hearing it's like from New York, the big companies in New York, especially when political politics have major impacts on cities and, and a lot of these big companies are coming in.
51:34
Either they're, they're going to Florida or they're coming to Texas, um, because of like tax breaks and, and all this stuff.
51:41
And um, you know, I think you're gonna start seeing a lot more coming into Texas and that's gonna affect how cities grow. [upbeat music] Thanks for listening to the Wilco Texas Insider Podcast.
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